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Post by Edmonton Crunch on Apr 13, 2019 18:01:31 GMT -5
I think most would agree the draft has become increasingly and extremely diluted. We've started drafting guys from 2020/2021. By the time we get to 2021 there will be very few guys left to draft with much of a chance to make any impact in the NFL. There will always be a few guys who come out nowhere, but I personally haven't found this draft fun at all, and if the draft stays at 5 rounds I'd consider whether I want to stay in the league long term as it essentially becomes a question of who picked up the star prospects when they enrolled. If people enjoy this that's awesome and I'll shut my mouth, but I would like to see a change made as the way the draft has been going the past few years is a bit frustrating. I have a lot of fun in the hockey and basketball leagues and I think the draft is more meaningful as you can only choose players once they're drafted in the real sports league.
Changing the draft to 3 rounds in length would help make the draft more interesting again. As well there will be more guys available in the FA pool, so those who manage cap well can be rewarded by being able to pick up undrafted players in FA
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Post by BSB on Apr 13, 2019 20:52:12 GMT -5
I agree with Crunch's thinking. I feel that we should change to 3 rounds and only draft for the current draft year. This year I drafted at least 1 player that is a 2022 prospect. I also think that we should allow managers to build their teams the way they want. And I mean having no cap limit and allow making rental trades for draft picks at the trade deadline. By doing this there would be fewer teams that would be building their teams via the draft and allow for more impact trades before the playoffs. Just sayin..
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Post by Hitmen on Apr 13, 2019 21:33:25 GMT -5
I couldn’t disagree more. I could make about 15 more picks if I had room. We have the dynasty league if that all you are after.
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Post by BSB on Apr 14, 2019 7:38:48 GMT -5
When you have the 1st overall pick you should be able to draft the top prospect of the upcoming draft and not the 3rd or 4th best player in a draft 3 years from now. The current situation will never allow for the 1st overall pick to get the best prospect for the upcoming draft.
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Post by Fantasy Sports Guru on Apr 14, 2019 8:11:55 GMT -5
I have no problem with limiting the draft to 3 rounds, but oppose drafting draft year eligible players only. We are in a Dynasty League which has a Developmental (devy) roster. Through our devy draft we select prospects we believe will ‘develop’ into elite NFL talent. I know selecting a player 3 years away from NFL eligibility is risky (a crap shoot), but through in-depth research you can comfortably select elite talent (5 star prospect versus no star). I believe our devy draft is what will separate the championship contenders from the rest of the field (a $3.00 salary for an elite prospect versus an $40.00 bidding war give you a lot of latitude).
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Post by Edmonton Crunch on Apr 14, 2019 10:45:02 GMT -5
I think it's unfortunate for managers in BSB's position. You had a bad year and now basically have to wait 3 years to get your guy who isn't even the best prospect in that draft. That is unfair and not a situation that should happen in any league.
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Post by Dwayne Bowe on Apr 14, 2019 16:20:10 GMT -5
Dropping to three rounds would be fine. I’m against the rest of the suggestions. Selecting a college guy who will be good in three years is no different than the hockey contract league where a guy isn’t impactful for three years usually or they stay in junior for 1-3 years before even coming to the NHL. Just talking hockey because I know BSB is a hockey guy.
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Post by BSB on Apr 14, 2019 16:45:38 GMT -5
But the top pick and/or the top picks in hockey play in the NHL right away and in most cases star in the NHL. In football the top draft picks in our league may not play in the NFL because you will be forced to pick the 3rd or 4th best player in 2 or 3 years in the future. That is the way it will always be..
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Post by Dwayne Bowe on Apr 14, 2019 18:26:17 GMT -5
You get what you put in I guess. Research future guys and be great in a few years or don’t and you won’t be. Even the top NHL picks don’t do much unless they are great ... this year the top scorer had 45 points from the 2018 draft....wouldn’t be rostered in most leagues.
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Post by Easy Freese on Apr 14, 2019 18:26:48 GMT -5
I just want to note again that I truly think this year is an outlier with none of the top NFL draft picks being available for our draft. Last year the top QB (Mayfield), top WR (Moore), and 2nd drafted RB (Penny), were all available the same year they came out of college. In 2017, the 2nd overall pick and highest drafted QB (Trubisky), 3rd highest WR and top 10 pick (Ross), and the 3rd TE and first round pick (Njoku) were all available for us to draft that year. In 2016, the 2nd overall pick and 2nd QB drafted (Wentz), The top WR (Coleman), and another first round QB (Lynch) were all available for us to be drafted the year they came out. FWIW all those players were first round NFL draft picks in their respective drafts. I think this year is clearly an outlier in that the quality of skilled position players entering the draft is down and other guys not declaring this year. I think most years the top picks have yielded NFL ready guys. Now whether it is better to take those guys or draft for the future is up for debate, but that option is typically available.
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Post by Hitmen on Apr 15, 2019 0:10:26 GMT -5
Also we need to keep in mind this a college draft not nfl rookie draft. My guess is the league was set up to draft college players and not players just about the enter the nfl. 16 dynasty league in FSc if you want to draft nfl rookies.
This is what makes this league unique to me.
Also way too much natural tanking goes on it contract leagues I don’t think it bad thing that 1st overall pick isn’t a sure thing.
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Post by Moorestown Big Dogs on Apr 15, 2019 17:58:35 GMT -5
I am a little late to the party, but thought I would share my thoughts anyway. My only other Contract league is Baseball, and so my thinking comes largely from there. We are drafting guys straight out of High School or from College, or (and this is different from Football) who are playing in the minors. Drafting someone who we think will help us in the upcoming season is rare, as most of the guys on the cusp of making it in the Majors got drafted a year or two earlier. So on those counts, the Football draft is very much like the Baseball one.
But there is this significant difference. In Baseball we have the 8 different positions who bat, and 5 SP per team, and at least 1 or 2 RPs who are worth having. So we have 15 slots per team to expect drafted players to have a shot at playing. In Football there is 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, and maybe a TE. As shown by what we drafted this year, about 10 QB, 40 Rb, 30 WR, and a few TE and Defensive players. Where there does seem to be an significant issue is at RB. If I remember correctly, we have 1 RB signed for this season with a salary of more than $10 (LeVeon Bell), and this is because, as many people have noted, all the good players get drafted, usually as recruits or after their Freshman season. Not sure what to do about the situation, as I do pretty much agree that this draft is for guys who are not necessarily ready to be starting in the NFL (Prospects), but it is something I have been thinking about.
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Post by Edmonton Crunch on Apr 15, 2019 19:31:37 GMT -5
I just want to note again that I truly think this year is an outlier with none of the top NFL draft picks being available for our draft. Last year the top QB (Mayfield), top WR (Moore), and 2nd drafted RB (Penny), were all available the same year they came out of college. In 2017, the 2nd overall pick and highest drafted QB (Trubisky), 3rd highest WR and top 10 pick (Ross), and the 3rd TE and first round pick (Njoku) were all available for us to draft that year. In 2016, the 2nd overall pick and 2nd QB drafted (Wentz), The top WR (Coleman), and another first round QB (Lynch) were all available for us to be drafted the year they came out. FWIW all those players were first round NFL draft picks in their respective drafts. I think this year is clearly an outlier in that the quality of skilled position players entering the draft is down and other guys not declaring this year. I think most years the top picks have yielded NFL ready guys. Now whether it is better to take those guys or draft for the future is up for debate, but that option is typically available. I don't think this year is an outlier but rather will be the trend if something isn't done. We'll see what happens next year but I have a suspicion I'm right. |
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Post by Edmonton Crunch on Apr 15, 2019 19:36:02 GMT -5
I think my minors roster ain't too bad honestly, I just think this will be a problem in the league in the future. Hopefully it doesn't happen but I feel some may change their tune if their team is stuck at the bottom
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Post by Hitmen on Apr 15, 2019 20:09:36 GMT -5
I agree with Crunch this year is not outlier but I think it will become more of a trend but I don’t see a problem with that.
When I joined this league I was told we would draft college players not nfl ready rookie. This why I was so excited to join this league cause it was different to the normal dynasty leagues.
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Post by Hitmen on Apr 15, 2019 20:11:50 GMT -5
Also every year a new group of players become available to draft yes most of them are 2-3 years away from the nfl but it my opinion that what makes this league fun and challenging.
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